2.03.2010
What My Future Looks Like: An Essay
1.28.2010
1.05.2010
BABY HEDGEHOGS AND AMERICAN APPAREL DOGS (DAVID FISHKIND, 2010)

12.30.2009
the top 100 albums of the decade according to david fishkind

3. Funeral – Arcade Fire, 2004
4. Oh, Inverted World – The Shins, 2001
5. Michigan – Sufjan Stevens, 2003
6. † – Justice, 2007
7. Veckatimest – Grizzly Bear, 2009
8. Easy Beat – Dr. Dog, 2004
9. Up the Bracket – The Libertines, 2002
10. ( ) – Sigur Rós, 2002
11. Tanglewood Numbers – Silver Jews, 2005
12. Illinois – Sufjan Stevens, 2005
13. Good News For People Who Love Bad News – Modest Mouse, 2004
14. The Creek Drank the Cradle – Iron & Wine, 2002
15. Chutes Too Narrow – The Shins, 2003
16. Lifted – Bright Eyes, 2002
17. Takk... – Sigur Rós, 2005
18. Sea Change – Beck, 2002
19. Sung Tongs – Animal Collective, 2004
20. Kid A – Radiohead, 2000
21. Strawberry Jam – Animal Collective, 2007
22. The Moon & Antarctica – Modest Mouse, 2000
23. The Glow Pt. 2 – The Microphones, 2001
24. Neon Bible – Arcade Fire, 2007
25. Gorillaz – Gorillaz, 2001
26. Seven Swans – Sufjan Stevens, 2004
27. Get Behind Me Satan – The White Stripes, 2005
28. The Flying Club Cup – Beirut, 2007
29. Stankonia – Outkast, 2000
30. Heretic Pride – The Mountain Goats, 2008
31. Fever to Tell – Yeah Yeah Yeahs, 2003
32. Whatever People Say I Am, That's What I'm Not – Arctic Monkeys, 2006
33. Cripple Crow – Devendra Banhart, 2005
34. I’m Wide Awake, It’s Morning – Bright Eyes, 2005
35. Our Endless Numbered Days – Iron & Wine, 2004
36. Beach House – Beach House, 2006
37. Mediocre Generica – Leftöver Crack, 2001
38. Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots – The Flaming Lips, 2002
39. Ga Ga Ga Ga Ga – Spoon, 2007
40. Bright Flight – Silver Jews, 2001
41. Ash Wednesday – Elvis Perkins, 2007
42. Niño Rojo – Devendra Banhart, 2004
43. I Am a Bird Now – Antony and the Johnsons, 2005
44. White Blood Cells – The White Stripes, 2001
45. Friends of Mine – Adam Green, 2003
46. Fate – Dr. Dog, 2008
47. New Magnetic Wonder – The Apples in Stereo, 2007
48. Apologies to the Queen Mary – Wolf Parade, 2005
49. Psychic Chasms – Neon Indian, 2009
50. Yellow House – Grizzly Bear, 2006
51. The Crane Wife – The Decemberists, 2006
52. Með suð í eyrum við spilum endalaust – Sigur Rós, 2008
53. Kala – M.I.A., 2007
54. The Coast Is Never Clear – Beulah, 2001
55. Russia – The Mystery Books, 2009
56. Giant – Herman Düne, 2006
57. Crystal Castles – Crystal Castles, 2008
58. Fuck World Trade - Leftöver Crack, 2004
59. Beach House – Devotion, 2008
60. Feels – Animal Collective, 2005
61. Fold Your Hands Child, You Look Like a Peasant – Belle and Sebastian, 2000
62. Gulag Orkestar – Beirut, 2006
63. Kill the Moonlight – Spoon, 2002
64. Is This It – The Strokes, 2001
65. The Moldy Peaches – The Moldy Peaches, 2001
66. Writer’s Block – Peter, Bjorn, and John, 2006
67. Robbers and Cowards – Cold War Kids, 2006
68. The Rhumb Line – Ra Ra Riot, 2008
69. Microcastle – Deerhunter, 2008
70. Since I Left You – The Avalanches, 2000
71. Satanic Panic in the Attic – of Montreal, 2004
72. Rejoicing in the Hands – Devendra Banhart, 2004
73. Guero – Beck, 2005
74. Wincing the Night Away – The Shins, 2007
75. Supreme Clientele – Ghostface Killah, 2000
76. Digital Ash in a Digital Urn – Bright Eyes, 2005
77. LCD Soundsystem – LCD Soundsystem, 2005
78. Gimme Fiction – Spoon, 2005
79. Logos – Atlas Sound, 2009
80. St. Elsewhere – Gnarls Barkley, 2006
81. Demon Days – Gorillaz, 2005
82. Fleet Foxes – Fleet Foxes, 2008
83. Until We’re Dead – Star Fucking Hipsters, 2008
84. All of a Sudden, I Miss Everyone – Explosions in the Sky, 2007
85. Post War – M. Ward, 2006
86. Little Joy – Little Joy, 2008
87. Toothbrush – Dr. Dog, 2003
88. Thought for Food – The Books, 2002
89. Yankee Hotel Foxtrot – Wilco, 2002
90. It’s Blitz! – Yeah Yeah Yeahs, 2009
91. We Were Dead Before the Ship Even Sank – Modest Mouse, 2007
92. A Sun Came – Sufjan Stevens, 2000
93. Under the Blacklight – Rilo Kiley, 2007
94. Hail to the Theif – Radiohead, 2003
95. The Libertines – The Libertines, 2004
96. Elephant – The White Stripes, 2003
97. Fevers and Mirrors – Bright Eyes, 2000
98. 18 – Moby, 2002
99. Real Emotional Trash – Stephen Malkmus and the Jicks, 2008
100. Highly Evolved – The Vines, 2002
HONORABLE MENTIONS
1. Building Nothing Out of Something – Modest Mouse, 2000
B-sides, doesn’t ‘technically’ count as an album… probably would’ve made top 8-15 had I decided to count it as an album
2. Arcade Fire EP – Arcade Fire, 2003
Struggled to decide if this was allowed to go on the list, decided it couldn’t because it was an EP, very deserving though
3. Live at Jittery Joes – Jeff Mangum, 2004
1997 live recording, seems really important somehow, but not really an album
4. Royal Tenenbaums Soundtrack – Various Artists, 2001
Really good, old songs compiled though, solid new tracks by Mark Mothersbaugh
5. Noise Floor (Rarities: 1998-2005) – Bright Eyes, 2006
Solid collection of songs that could not make any Oberst ‘album’
6. Lon Gisland – Beirut, 2006
Only an EP, but pretty damn good, decided not to include any EPs on list, but AnCo’s Fall Be Kind was also a really good EP from the decade
7. Live at Madison Square Garden New Year's Eve 1995 – Phish, 2005
I got really into this recording back in 2006, so good, don’t really listen to Phish anymore
8. Harry Potter and the Half Blood Prince – J. K. Rowling, read by Jim Dale, 2005
Easy to fall asleep to, reminds me of middle school/early high school years, calming
9. Universal Blues – The Redwalls, 2003
Simply didn’t make the list, was #101, deserves recognition, when I was really into the Beatles, I would listen to this album to feel like I was listening to more Beatles’ songs or something
10. Dark Night of the Soul – Dangermouse and Sparklehorse + Various Artists, 2009
Was unsure how to classify this, based on the use of various artists, etc, very nearly made list, but did not
11. Teen Dream – Beach House, 2010
Technically came out in January 2010, but leaked onto the internet sometime in November 2009, seems like it definitely would’ve made this list, but by the time 2020 comes around, I probably won’t find it relevant, interesting, or possibly even good enough to make a list
12. Hot Fuss – The Killers, 2004
Funny-ass/good album, I like this album I guess a lot sometimes and not at all other times, should’ve made the list, but didn’t at all
12.28.2009
the best tracks/albums of 2009 according to david fishkind


12.27.2009
artists/bands: a decade in david fishkind's music preference













12.26.2009
movies: decade + 2009 + avatar

1. the royal tenenbaums, 2001 - sweet movie, felt really engaged, have watched it like 30 times, still really into it
2. fantastic mr. fox - seemed really good, read my review or something
3. district 9 - seemed really shocking and intense, really engaging, drank a lot of beer after seeing this i recall
4. a serious man - seemed targeted toward jews yet accessible for anyone, dark dramedy or whatever
5. inglorious basterds - seemed overrated overall, but still good
6. tokyo! - seemed really re weird michel gondry film + sewer bro + hikikomori, read my semi-review
7. mystery team - seemed really impressive re budget + derrick comedy bros + sundance, not incredibly funny, just pretty strong movie overall
8. coralline - seemed good in 3d, saw it with gf for a lot of money at union square, seems like henry selick has mad talent animation-wise
9. brüno - seemed funny re penis shots
12.25.2009
year/decade's end
seems intense that a year ago at this time i was just another bro, chillin with my gf and visting her family for the holidays
seems intense that 10 years ago at this time i was a little boy, sitting around my house in indiana, drawing pictures of old people in nursing homes watching tv with the caption '2000 here i come'
now, i'm like, in connecticut, not at my house, feeling similarly maybe
in this final week of this year/decade a frequenter of this blog can look forward to david fishkind's opinions re music and movies that have come out in the last 1-10 years
tomorrow, dec 26: i will post about my favorite movies of the year and decade
dec 28: i will post about my favorite tracks/albums of the year
dec 30: i will post my top 100 albums of the decade, hoping to gain mad-hits and some good 'shit-talking'
today is christmas. i used to celebrate christmas and chanukah when i lived in indiana.
i used to be non-denominational for like the first 8-9 years of my life. then my parents decided that we should 'be something.' my mom converted to judaism and so did my sister and i. we had to get naked in like a jacuzzi and have a baptism sort of thing. the jacuzzi was cold. i feel lucky that i was prepubescent and not very self conscious. seems like if i had to do that today, i would be really upset.
not sure what i'll do today. i will probably read 'infinite jest' and eat chinese food, while listening to neutral milk hotel bootlegs and stuff.
merry christmas everyone and get pumped for forthcoming decade/year posts or something
12.21.2009
The Subculture of Internet Literature: Homology and Style
In 1979, Dick Hebdige wrote a book for the Birmingham Center for Contemporary Cultural Studies. It was called Subculture: The Meaning of Style, and it took a new stance on cultural studies, examining a cultural phenomenon not for the mainstream, but for the rejects of society. Conventional citizens abhorred punk culture and were abhorred by punks uniformly. Subculture, Hebdige defines as, “in the expressive forms and rituals of those subordinate groups.” Punks separated themselves through ridiculous dress with “shirts covered in graffiti, or fake blood; the ties left undone,” safety pins worn through the “cheek, ear or lip,” “Rapist masks.” Their dance lacked all social convention, dancing alone, jumping wildly in place or with a partner of the same sex; punks mocked all sense of societal congruity. Magazines and other publications were produced and distributed for punks by punks. These periodicals lacked any formal sense of writing or journalistic ability and were designed with negative views toward these establishments in mind. Poorly put together and riddled with profanity they marked the obvious derisive nature of their creators and audience. Of course, all of this was centered around the music, which was called “uniformly basic.” Crude, simple, and straightforward, the punks reveled around poorly constructed chords and rhythms, heavy beats, and angry screaming, they were essentially talentless musicians. Lyrics were rebellious, profane, and ridiculous at times. Hebdige makes that not for punks, “perverse and abnormal were valued intrinsically.”
It is no surprise why this group of ruffians and deriders came to refer to their style as “punk,” which brings to definition such synonyms as “mean and petty villainy,” “rotten,” and “worthless.” However, the punks were more than just a group of louts, running around and creating chaos for the world. They were uniform in their actions, and they developed their own take on society. With subculture came style. A style formed through “homology” as Hebdige puts it. Thus the anarchy and subterranean qualities of the punk movement are only the basic foundations of an oh-so-greater meaning to their approach. Homology is used “to describe the symbolic fit between the values and lifestyles of a group, its subjective experience and the musical forms it uses to express or reinforce its focal concerns.” And here, one begins to understand the central point to the punk’s interest. He is angry at the system and apathetic to the feelings and judgments of others. He is breaking down the way the public views certain dress and demeanor and building it up into a new mechanism for himself. He is fueled by your hate because he hates you back. Punk is the disaffected, disengaged, alienated youth, facing the long past, yet present Victorian undertones of England in the mid-twentieth century. “Poverty was being parodied, the wit was undeniably barbed that beneath the clownish make-up there lurked the unaccepted and disfigured face of capitalism.” Their only interest was to shock and disturb and punks defiled bodies with offensive imagery such as superfluous piercing and sporting swastikas. Though they were not a racist, anti-Semitic, or homophobic group, such measures worked to disturb and upset common people, achieving the punk’s goal. Hebdige claims, “The punk culture, then, signified chaos at every level, but that was only possible because the style itself was so thoroughly ordered.”
It is interesting now, thirty years later to look back on this analysis and commentary on the punk movement. The subculture briefly discussed above is all but gone; however, its legacy survives. It is entrenched in musical and social history due to its significant commentary on society and its largely innovative and powerful take on style. Homogeneity in approach and attitude entrenched a common feel and goal among the group. A subculture was formed with the intention of dismantling established mediums for art, self, and expression. The desire of the punks to push against the boundaries of what defines good lifestyle was manifest in appearance and mindset. Their misplaced hatred, their apathy, their need for chaos, anarchy, and new order all were built together in a social, even antisocial, establishment, defining a style unique to a specific interest and pursuit of that subculture. Their goals and approach unified, the group was then able to establish a lasting effect and reflection upon society through an artistic movement.
Years after the emergence of punk subculture, the Internet exploded, creating an open outlet for virtually any person, group, idea, or motive. By the mid-1990s there were websites and forums for anything one could be interested in. Today there are thousands times more. Googling the word “punk,” one finds himself with about 104,000,000 results. It is easy to think about how the emergence of a subculture can so easily build its way up from the Internet. Information and ideas are passed so quickly, and bounced off one another, it was only a matter of time before thousands of small, tight-knit groups would be formed, sharing basic appeal, ideals, and approaches to a similar pursuit or interest. Such a social unit that developed quickly and with increasing interest on the Internet was one that had existed for centuries: literature.
Internet literature can be said to have its foundations established in the world of blogging. Originally referred to as a “weblog,” the blog became one of the easiest and most appealing mediums to share ideas and writing with the entire world. The most basic form of blogging began in the late 1990s. Writers and journalists, trained and completely unknown alike began to post basic commentaries up on the Internet. Early blogs took the form of diaries, news editorials, and basic communication forums. Soon, they grew to large communities of readers and writers conversing, sharing opinions and developing relationships. With the establishment of large blogging websites such as WordPress and Pyra Labs, later bought by Google and changed to its current name Blogger, it was easy for anyone to have a blog, without having to learn complex computer languages. Blogs became an outlet for a much greater extension of users, as well as a greater extension of uses. The emergence of the common man’s blog allowed anyone and everyone to feel free to write whatever they wanted. Soon, poets and prose writers alike were using blogging forums to get their writing out to the public without having to go through any of the grueling processes of submitting to journals or publication houses or editing work against the critique of a publisher.
Not long after the establishment of an easier blogging community came the demand for more means by which work could be viewed. Blogs were created for the purpose of publishing the literature of Internet writers and for working to get the names out of talented and ambitious writers, mostly young and new to the field, out to a large audience without the costs of print publication or advertisement. The number of writers grew and the size of the audience for Internet literature followed suite. Soon there were a number of strong literary outlets with foundation in the Internet, including McSweeney’s Magazine’s Internet presence, built off the success of the literary journal, as well as purely Internet literary websites, such as Word Riot, Pindeldyboz, and Eyeshot. Writers began to create communities within the greater blogging and Internet literary communities, associating themselves with specific websites, blogs, and writers that they liked and liked them. Thus no single Internet literature subculture, under the terms and discussion set forth by Hebdige, was formed, but rather dozens were formed, all with different interests, approaches, and views on style. The Internet literary subculture focused on specifically in this essay is just one of these many, and it is difficult to nail it down to one single term. However, one may see the greatest of its compiled interests lying in two relatively recent blogs: writer and Internet-personality Tao Lin’s “Reader of Depressing Books,” also known as “heheheheheheheeheheheehehe.com,” and the collected contribution-based commentary of editor Blake Butler and administrator Gene Morgan’s “HTMLGIANT.”
“Reader of Depressing Books” began in May of 2005 after Tao Lin graduated New York University’s College of Arts and Sciences. He had become involved with creative writing while attending the university, publishing work on the Internet, and in print, as well as receiving the school’s prestigious Seth Barkas Prize in Creative Writing. The blog began as simple reviews and reflections on literature, namely depressing literature according to Lin. However, not long after, it became a place to showcase his online literary career and promote his career in writing in general. His comments section of each post became a place for either praise or “shit-talking” (a phrase commonly used by Lin and other Internet writers for criticism), and he established a strong online following, developing relationships with other writers and interested readers of his work. His fellow writers and readers shared a common view on life as a bleak, ironic, and frequently hilarious thing.
Lin’s first book of poetry you are a little bit happier than i am was published in November 2006. It consists of poems that were largely published over the Internet before Action Books picked it up. The Internet was not only used in promoting and establishing the poetry, but also seems to underlie a good deal of its content. The pervading sense of alienation, loneliness, and sardonic characteristics in Lin’s writing may be a product of the structure of the Internet as a reflection of modern youth culture. Generation Y was the first generation to be fully exposed to the Internet while they were still young and largely impressionable. The act of surfing-the-web seems similar to the act of exploring a library or a volume of encyclopedia or reading through an anthology; however, one can experience all of this information at once, at a greater speed, from the safety of his small dark room. One may also compare the Internet to a completely new and improved social mechanism; however, social interaction on the Internet is not the same as social interaction between two people face-to-face. The alienating and lonely characteristics of the Internet define an entirely new view on reality for the youth that began its experience in the late 1990s.
“Reader of Depressing Books” is as much a reflection on depressing literature as it is on the depressing nature of the technological era. Lin’s July 2005 post titled “writing and the internet and my novel” is a detached list of tasks and experiences regarding his daily life working on furthering his literary career. An excerpt from the eighty-nine point list reads “11. check e-mail / 12. feel bad that there are no new e-mails / 13. think about maximizing the manuscript of the novel in microsoft word / 14. think briefly about my future / 15. feel a little doomed / 16. drink the rest of the coffee / 17. look on the internet for something to inspire me / 18. google news my favorite authors / 19. check e-mail…” This alone demonstrates the level to which the alienating qualities of the Internet affect his writing for the public and play into his work regiment for his novel. Today Lin is the author of five books: two poetry collections you are a little bit happier than i am (2006, Action Books) and Cognitive Behavioral Therapy (2008, Melville House), a short story collection Bed (2007, Melville House), a novel Eeeee Eee Eeee (2007, Melville House), and a novella Shoplifting from American Apparel, just published this past September by Melville House. Melville House will also publish his second novel Richard Yates in September 2010. Major stylistic qualities of Lin’s writing, in addition to its alienated and estranged nature, include concrete statements with no trace of emotional connection, self-deprecation, ironic scare-quoting of seemingly arbitrary words, loneliness, the existential struggle, and notions of surrealistic digressions of stream-of-consciousness.
“HTMLGIANT” refers to itself as “the internet literature magazine blog of the future.” It began just over a year ago and is updated by approximately seventeen regular contributors and, on occasion, guest contributors, all of whom are established writers part of the Internet literary subculture. “HTMLGIANT” publishes commentaries on emerging new writers, specifically within their movement, more established and influential writers of major press corporations, releases of books, movies, journals, and relevant and funny Internet “Web Hype.”
The blog has become associated with discussions in comment sections that are random, ridiculous, ironic, sometimes legitimate, and often “shit-talking.” The blog has become a strong source for new information regarding the Internet writing in general and is especially reflective of the subculture’s approach and interests. One such example includes a Gmail Chat conversation between two “HTMLGIANT” contributors reviewing Tao Lin’s latest release. This unorthodox, clearly Internet-based approach to a review, coupled with the fact that reviewers were also associated Internet writers, as well as former roommates of the subject, demonstrates the lengths to which the subculture of Internet literature has developed. A small, tight group of people has come together across the medium of the Internet, working with ideas, interests, and goals. The irony, the detached glow of the computer screen, the web-based publication all factor into the approach and concentration of the movement’s ethos.
In October 2008, Tao Lin announced on his blog a new publisher of which he was the editor. It was called Muumuu House, and it started as an Internet literary journal, moving on to publish three print books in first year: Ellen Kennedy’s debut poetry collection Sometimes My Heart Pushes My Ribs in March, a compiled book of Gmail Chats, titled The Brandon Book Crisis in May, and Brandon Scott Gorrell’s debut poetry collection During My Nervous Breakdown I Want to Have a Biographer Present in June. The stylistic qualities of the publishing house are wildly similar to Lin’s own writing, and the online supplement appears highly influenced by the Internet. In addition to poetry and short fiction publications, the website also features the publication of Gmail Chat conversations between Internet writers and personalities and even collected selections from Lin’s friends’ Twitter accounts. The foundation of Muumuu House somewhat entrenched the sense of homology within the subculture of Internet literature that had emerged. The rhetorical qualities of these publications and the adherence to the Internet in design and content confirm the development of a truly homogenized and stylized subculture.
The poetry of Ellen Kennedy and Brandon Scott Gorrell are characterized by uncanny similarity to Lin’s own writing. His relationship with these two writers seems to be catalogued through interaction between blogs and emails. The evaluation of their work suggests a collaboration of effort, interest, and ideals that define the direction of subculture. A poem from each writer’s most recent poetry collection is very telling of the extent to which the homology in literary approach and style are based.
Tao Lin’s “today is tuesday; email me on saturday” from his 2008 collection Cognitive Behavior Therapy discusses his issues with dealing with his own life and with social relationships. Note even the influence of the Internet, regarding the title’s “email me.” The poem begins “the secret of life is decisiveness / and to describe something / i see the danger and move immediately into it / now i am really alone.” The speaker describes his actions as a sense of disenchanted contemplation, and the reaction of approach, a discovery and implementation of some said secret certainty in existence, leads to a state of solitude. This disillusioned and disheartening start to the piece sets the tone as a rampant struggle for some truth or meaning in life. The poem then plunges into abstraction explaining that “a hamster is a lonely fist” and that “I want to hold you face / with my face / like a hand.” The work demonstrates a lack of conviction and rationality in his thoughts and actions. They are the digressions of loneliness and longing toward an unattainable goal. The poem, only eleven lines in length, ends with “the secret of life is that i miss you, and this describes life / tonight my heart feels shiny and calm as a soft wet star / i describe it from a distance, then move quickly a way.” The work concludes with a pervading sense of vulnerability, as well as a detached notion regarding one’s feelings. The speaker reflects on being distanced from his heart, and moving further away. Though simultaneously the poem reflects on missing someone, implying the desire to be close and, taking note of the title, interact. The poem’s overarching impression seems to be that of removed yearning, solitude, and confusion regarding the direction of life and relationships.
Ellen Kennedy’s “Jean Rhys” is not only thematically and stylistically similar to the poem discussed above, it seems as if Lin himself could have written it. The poem begins “I’m preparing myself for an extended period of loneliness.” This is clearly an established and powerful theme throughout the Internet literary subculture. And a clear reference to the influence of the Internet and the concentration in depressing content is expressed following this thought: “I’ve illegally downloaded two new depressing songs.” The work continues “…myself alone in my room / Just a few things are needed really / To make me calm / While I figure out a simple, clean, and effective way to kill myself, / With minimal stress for the persona who has to find and dispose of my body.” This straightforward and emotionless approach to the discussion of suicide demonstrates the level of alienation and detachment that is associated with the speaker and the literary movement in general. The poem moves forward with the introduction of a relationship, much in the same way that Lin’s does: “I’ll probably never kill myself / I’ll just lie in my bed suffocating myself with my pillows / While listening to the four songs you said were your favorite.” Kennedy evokes a sense of difficulty in expressing her true intentions and feelings, clearly confused, depressed, and unsure of herself. “And the next time I’m in a subway station, / I’ll stand a little further on the yellow line / Or maybe the next time I’m at your apartment / I’ll try a little harder.” The poem is again, quite short, and demonstrates almost identical thematic goals as the previously discussed poem. The title “Jean Rhys” is a reference to the Modernist writer, commonly discussed as a part of the “Reader of Depressing Books” lineup due to her approach and content. Interest and reference to this strengthens the ties between Lin and Kennedy, further establishing the uniformity of the Internet literary movement.
Brandon Scott Gorrell’s poem “you are a goldfish and i am alienated” completely affirms the notions of homology in the style and approach of the Internet literature subculture. The title itself is an obvious indication of the ideas discussed thus far regarding the movement and the contents of the poem are completely in tune with the previous two discussed. It begins “i was nervous about going out with you / so i sat around cultivating internet relationships / while you participated in physical reality a different way.” The reference to relationships, the forward, detached movement of the words and ideas, and description of the Internet as a different form of “physical reality” establishes a highly formed and unified approach toward literature. The work proceeds, “i wanted you to invite me somewhere / but you were keeping the fun to yourself / i felt inadequate.” Gorrell discusses notions of intense loneliness and difficulty in forming stable relationships with other people and perhaps even himself. This content and stylistic method is clearly akin to that discussed above. It continues “…you / were living inside of a spherical / semi-permeable membrane that you wanted to escape completely.” This abstraction is much like that of Lin’s face holding a face like a fist and “a hamster is a lonely fist.” Gorrell uses it to describe a notion of difficulty of understanding and relating reality to other people’s situation. It is the alienated, insane voice of explaining something happening physically through an unrelated and complex symbolism of viewing something, isolated, from the outside, unable to make its way through. “i continued avoiding eye contact” works in a similar manner establishing this inability to be fully connected to another person. He ends the poem “i would have rather flown in outer space with you / stared into a telescope with you next to me / or committed suicide together / or something.” The desire to escape the basic realities of life is clearly presented in the final thoughts of this poem; this is coupled with the detached position on suicide discussed earlier. The use of the phrase “or something” displays the intense apathy and disconnect that defines the entire subculture’s lonely and alienated stance on interaction, thought processes, and existence in general.
It seems, then, from an outside standpoint, that this subculture of Internet literature is clearly reflected in the homology of style and approach of its associates. However, in order to gain a greater appreciation and understanding of an insider’s feelings regarding these assertions on the collective, I metaphorically sat down with Tao Lin for an interview. Metaphorically meaning, I don’t know if he was sitting. The interview took place on a medium that we both felt was appropriate for the discussion: a Gmail Chat:
David Fishkind: What does subculture mean to you?
Tao Lin: Something the New York Times covers for the first time in a feature article ~3-7 years after it's “inception.”
DF: What might subculture mean to you specifically in regard to the emergence of Internet literature?
TL: Anyone not published by a publisher owned by a corporation feels to me like they are either in some kind of subculture or in some kind of thing that if it had 10-100x more influence would feel like a subculture to me.
DF: How/why did you get involved in writing literature on, for, and about the Internet?
TL: I've never viewed my writing as on, for, or about the Internet. I've viewed the Internet just as another place that can host my writing, similar to a newspaper, a magazine, or a book, places where I've published an equal amount of my writing, I think. I first began writing for publication in 2002 or 2003. My first published pieces were in NYU's print magazine, eyeshot.net, uber.nu, pindeldyboz.com, and Dicey Brown's print magazine, I think. I got involved because I liked the things I read on eyeshot.net and in books and other places and was taking creative writing classes and my professor encouraged me.
DF: When and why did you start blogging? Do you view this as related to or extending your literary experience in any way?
TL: I started blogging after I graduated from NYU with a B.A. in journalism, in May 2005. I started blogging because I had many hours a day where I felt “bored” maybe and my main interest in life was literature, and I thought I would feel less bored if I typed things about literature on the internet (instead of laying in bed thinking things about literature alone then forgetting them the next day then thinking the same things), possibly even feeling “good” or “excited” or something. I view my blogging, and everything else in my life, ideally, as one thing that I would call “[something]” or “everything,” and in that sense it is a part of, an extension of, and also “is” my literary experience.
DF: How do you think the Internet literary subculture has evolved over the past few years to entrench itself as an established experience, moving beyond the blogosphere and into journalism and print?
TL: In my view, if forced to talk about some kind of evolution, I would say that in the beginning, in 2000 or 2001, there was McSweeney's, and their website and print journal. And that “inspired” (in my view, not sure if each journal's inception was caused by McSweeney's) maybe 10 online and print journals, some of which are Hobart, Eyeshot, American Journal of Print, Uber, Pindeldyboz, Dicey Brown, Surgery of Modern Warfare. Those journals all seemed, to me, very focused tonally and in design, and I liked them, and they all seemed to know each other, it felt like some kind of community. About half these journals published both online and in print. That continued from maybe 2003 to maybe 2006. Then the people editing those journals either stopped editing them or let other people edit them or stopped the magazine. After 2006 or 2007 or so there seem to be exponentially more Internet literary magazines. After 2006 I feel no longer able to see any evolution, due to there being too many things for me to be aware of adequately to say anything general. I feel that magazines on the Internet feel as “established” and “legitimate” now as they did in 2003.
DF: I never thought about it like that. Interesting. Okay, moving on a little. What stylistic approaches do you associate yourself with as a writer?
TL: I associate myself with two styles in prose, two styles in poetry. Prose (1) used in “Shoplifting from American Apparel”/influenced by “Kmart-Realists”: concrete words in short to medium length sentences with the subject beginning the sentence, with little or no adjectives or adverbs, a minimal use of punctuation, and ideally no idioms (“sup bro”; “scram”) or clichés (“kicked the bucket”; “screamed at the top of his lungs”) except in dialogue (2) used in “Bed”/influenced by Lorrie Moore: everything in (1) but with abstractions, metaphors, similes, em-dashes, semi-colons. Poetry (1) used in “Cognitive-Behavioral Therapy”/influenced by Matthew Rohrer & Ben Lerner: never tonally literal, with abstractions and sometimes idioms and clichés used in a non-literal manner, with a focus on non-sequiturs (2) used in “you are a little bit happier than i am”/influenced by emo songs maybe: something similar to “Prose (1)” but in first-person. These are ideals and I don't necessarily follow these exactly in the books I listed.
DF: Do you associate any stylistic approaches with the Internet literature subculture in general?
TL: No. I associate a certain style with Muumuu House, but I view Muumuu House as a small percentage of the writing that is on the internet, and I view it as different than most of the writing on the internet, though I don't view it as more different than any other two venues on the internet probably.
DF: How would you describe that style?
TL: Concrete words in short to medium length sentences with the subject beginning the sentence, with little or no adjectives or adverbs, a minimal use of punctuation, and ideally no idioms (“sup bro”; “scram”) or clichés (“kicked the bucket”; “screamed at the top of his lungs”) except in dialogue. Told in a detached, direct tone to humorous and emotional effects.
DF: You have already answered this partially, but if you feel you have anything to add, how does the Internet affect your style as a writer, or how do you think it may affect the style of other Internet writers you may associate yourself with?
TL: I don't think it affects my writing style or the writing styles of those I associate with in a manner that is more significant than the telephone, Microsoft Word, caffeine, or [almost anything else] affects my writing style and the writing styles of those I associate with.
DF: Many other writers involved with Internet literature have been closely compared to you stylistically, such as Brandon Scott Gorrell and Ellen Kennedy, both of whom you published this year at Muumuu House. How do you feel the similarities in your respective stylistic approaches emerged?
TL: The first things I read by Brandon Scott Gorrell and Ellen Kennedy were stylistically similar to some of my writing, in the same manner someone in China right now is probably writing in the same style as me. I felt an affinity to their writing, because I write what I want to read, and as we read more of each other's writings we probably felt encouraged stylistically and wrote more intensely in that style, having more confidence to do so.
DF: Thank you, you answered my next question in that answer.
TL: Good.
DF: Last one. How do you think the Internet may affect the future of your writing and the future of Muumuu House?
TL: The Internet probably won't affect the future of my writing or Muumuu House because I and Muumuu House were already using the Internet when me and Muumuu House began doing things related to writing. In terms of prose style, content, themes, and tone I don't think the Internet will affect me or Muumuu House in ways more significant than anything else. Overall I feel that the Internet has little to no effect on the order and selection of the words in my books; things that affect that, and Muumuu House, are things like how my mom and dad treated me ages 3-10 or if I had any debilitating diseases growing up or how much time I spent alone in college, I think.
me: Interesting. Thanks, I appreciate you taking the time for that.
TL: [No problem].
This interview, though not completely what I expected, and not completely working in favor of all of the statements made in a discussion of a said Internet literary subculture, does actually work to affirm a good deal of the claims made regarding approach, interest, and style. Lin’s sardonic response to my very first question kind of set the tone for the conversation. He answered the questions as directly as possible, and had to be asked in order to get much more detail on something. His discussion of concrete and detached literary style is reflected in his everyday writing, simply through the way he responded to this interview. In addition, Lin also established and reaffirmed statements regarding the homology of style, at least for Muumuu House. Though it may seem to push further than simply that publisher and its website, the obvious trend of developing and entrenching a style due to the collected interest and approach of a group is confirmed here by the writing and interest of Lin, Kennedy, Gorrell, and other writers based in the Internet.
In regard to Lin’s claims about the Internet not playing a role in the direction and interest of his writing, one can only take that he is making broader, perhaps ironic claims. Perhaps the approach does not directly come from the Internet, but it seems heavily influenced for a writer who claims that blogging is “an extension of, and also ‘is’ [his] literary experience.” All one has to do is visit his blog, updated on average weekly, or turn to the first page of September’s Shoplifting from American Apparel to see the extent to which the Internet plays a role in his life and literature. It opens with a Gmail Chat conversation between two writers, discussing relationships, literature, and Internet porn. The Internet seems alive and well in Lin’s writing, and whether it feels like an influence or not, there is an undeniable presence and representation of the subculture within almost all he writes.
Thirty years ago Dick Hebdige closely observed the punks of London to determine a sense of true style that can be gained through the homogenized approach in collected interest and approach. Through their homology, the punks developed their own culture, centered about a series of similar feelings toward music, society, and one another. Today, the Internet allows for a more efficient gathering of similarly minded individuals in a social setting that guarantees an easy exchange of ideas. Of the millions of interests and outlets that the Internet provides, the chance to exchange literary ideas and stylistic approaches is just one. And that one can be broken down even further into the subculture that has been clearly established and discussed through the work of Tao Lin’s “Reader of Depressing Books,” the commentary and support of “HTMLGIANT”’s collected effort, a number of online literary magazines and publishers, and the most recent establishment of the Muumuu House publisher, breaching Internet interests with full print publications with homogenized effort and style. Today, the number of blogs and writers is constantly growing, the passing of new ideas, the entrenchment of style, and the collective concentration to maintain and push further is avid and pervading. The future of Internet literature seems to be anything but bleak, and the ever-growing mores behind it seems stronger than ever. The subculture has developed and maintained its own style and approach, and continues to work, pushing the limits and direction of literature through its interests.
Works Cited:
Butler, Blake, ed. HTMLGIANT. Blogger, 2009. Web. 14 Dec. 2009.
Gorrell, Brandon Scott. During My Nervous Breakdown I Want to Have a Biographer Present. New York: Muumuu House, 2009. Print.
Hebdige, Dick. “Subculture: The Meaning of Style.” Literary Theory: An Anthology: Second Edition. Ed. Julie Rivkin and Michael Ryan. Malden, MA: Blackwell, 2004. Print.
Kennedy Ellen. Sometimes My Heart Pushes My Ribs. New York: Muumuu House, 2009. Print.
Lin, Tao. Cognitive Behavioral Therapy. New York: Melville House, 2008. Print.
Lin, Tao, ed. Muumuu House. 2009. Web. 15 Dec. 2009.
Lin, Tao. Personal Interview. 16 Dec. 2009.
Lin, Tao, ed. Reader of Depressing Books/heheheheheheheeheheheehehe.com. Blogger, 2009. Web. 15 Dec. 2009.
Lin, Tao. Shoplifting from American Apparel. New York: Melville House, 2009. Print.
“Tao Lin.” Wikipediea. MediaWiki, 14 Dec. 2009. Web. 14 Dec. 2009.
12.15.2009
read, listen to, and download my poetry on word riot
two poems of mine have been published at word riot12.02.2009
december: expect big things

11.28.2009
11.21.2009
three reviews
11.18.2009
stuff
11.14.2009
notes on wes anderson's 'fantastic mr. fox'

11.07.2009
who needs poetry when you experience life through a small quiet vacuum
11.05.2009
excerpt from nicole spector's upcoming novella 'the gay life'
Then he started being gay. He loved it. It was all he ever did. Everyday. So much. He got wet in the bath. And got gay. Then he went to the gay bar. THEN HE TOOK ME TO THE GAY BAR. A GAY BAR. GAY BAR. Un-caps lock. At the gay bar. He met a bro. named shithead. Chad. Not shithead. So he followed chad to the fuck room. And they were both. On x. and they fucked. Together. At the same time. Then. Chad had to pee. Then Michael left the gay bar. He got fucked. By. Hahahahahaha. A gay hobo. That raped him. Ahahaahgagagahaha. He seduced him. Into his cardboard box. And raped him. And then he convinced him to stay. And watch splash! With tom hanks in it. Then Michael went home and his asshole hurt. He decided he should get tested. The end.
*nicole spector (depicted above) has been writing for 16 years and was running a 102 fever when this was written. the piece was dictated to an anonymous ghost writer and then emailed to me post-haste*
11.02.2009
things i did
10.31.2009
10.26.2009
a comprehensive review of tao lin's 'shoplifting from american apparel', career, gimmicks, personality, and other things (with dj berndt)
*all that follows is a real unedited text between dj berndt and i regarding 'tao lin's grassroots promotional campaign'. this conversation took place on october 26, 2009 on gmail and it will reign down in history as one of the most significant gchats regarding the internet literary scene of all time*
Chat with DJ Berndt
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10.25.2009
apologies
10.22.2009
quick comments on lorrie moore and 'a gate at the stairs' (also moby!)
i hope that someday i am able to do to lorrie moore the opposite of what i recently did to spike jonze10.18.2009
i put the holes in: a comprehensive review of the spike jonze's 'where the wild things are'

10.13.2009
some things (IMPORTANT)
10.11.2009
yesterday (and part of today!)


10.07.2009
i'm working on a novella
10.03.2009
my friend fredrico
10.02.2009
promotional post
9.27.2009
i am a moth who just wants to share your light
9.23.2009
9.18.2009
2010
9.14.2009
conceptual poetry
9.12.2009
wtf is a blog?
9.06.2009
everything i am right now
8.30.2009
8.28.2009
notes on moving
8.25.2009
which is whole
8.21.2009
i am carles.

8.17.2009
a lot of things going on
8.11.2009
confessions of a junky with a tumor: a comprehensive review of andy riverbed's 'missed connections & casual encounters'
a couple weeks ago i received an email from a depressed/possibly frantic andy riverbed. attached was a collection of poetry he had recently compiled. he told me he thought i might enjoy it. up to this point i'd never had any correspondence with andy. i'd read his name occasionally commenting on blogs i frequent, but had never addressed him or even viewed his blog. i liked how his email reached out to me (and complimented me on my review of 'russia') so i decided to give it a shot and read the collection. i had a five hour bus ride to fill anyway.8.09.2009
blogging about things other than literature/music/media

8.02.2009
sitting on the fung wah bus from new york to boston in the pouring rain
try not to cry at the end of a sad movie if there are people around you
try to hold hands as much as you can
try to walk down the street with your back straight
try to save something important forever until you die
i am sorry for everything i will do in the future
i am sorry for all the money that i will never make
i sat in the met and went to the bathroom and looked at a self portrait
i sat in an expensive restaurant eating fish and feeling nervous
i need more tall buildings, i’m afraid of things not coming true
everything in the world will come true
i need everything in the world to come true in order to keep sane
i sat in an expansive rest eating eggs and feeling good
try not to eat something that might make you feel sick
try not to get too cold
look over the bridge
there is a massive cemetery in queens
8.01.2009
sitting on the fung wah bus from boston to new york in the pouring rain
7.28.2009
i don't mean anything i say: a comprehensive review of the mystery books' 'russia'

7.23.2009
7.19.2009
i grind my teeth sometimes when i'm asleep
7.16.2009
garden state: a masterpiece of indie

garden state might be considered the first mass-appeal indie film


7.15.2009
crispin best
7.12.2009
pangur ban print

7.07.2009
i have information that is funny and possibly valuable to some people and i want a press website to read this blog and interview me and pay me for it
He sat down on a stool and turned on a big, white iMac. The screen was vast and panning. He looked at it intensely and hopelessly. He stood up, walked away for a moment and ordered a large black tea with milk at the counter. He sipped it quickly, burning the roof of his mouth as he made his way back to his stool. When he returned, he found that a young girl had taken his spot. She was beautiful with a light brown complexion. He looked at his tea. They were the same color. She had a beauty mark above her lip on the left side. She wore red lipstick and a red sari. She was probably about seventeen years old. She had a pen in her right hand, which she was dangling next to her lips. Chewing on it every so often. She was beautiful. Abhi felt that he should go talk to her. He could use the fact that she took his seat as an opener. She would speak English perfectly and she would apologize. He would say it was alright and that he didn’t actually care and she would buy him a cookie and they would share the computer and show each other their emails and Facebook accounts. He would make her laugh and she would laugh coolly and beautifully and when she laughed she would place her hand on his forearm ever so slightly. He would ask her if she was hungry and they would go out and get dumplings and then they would go to the park to eat them. In the park he would tell her all about his trip and how he felt alienated and confused returning to Mumbai and how he’d left this morning without telling anyone and how his family was probably getting up around then. She would say that he should go to them and he would say no and she would say that was good because she’d wanted him to stay. They’d finish their dumplings and feel well filled and they would lie in the grass looking up at the sky as the sun continued to breach. He would tell her that he was very lucky to have had her steal his computer and she would say she was lucky that he’d talked to her. He would touch her left cheek with his right hand and she would exhale with a shudder and their faces would connect. And it would be electric. And then she would say her parents were at work and she didn’t have to go to work today and she would say that he should come see her house. And her house would be small and warm and beautifully decorated. And they’d sit down on her bed and kiss again. And then they would move from sitting to lying. And then. Abhi felt that he was getting an erection.
He walked away and found a different computer on the other side of the café."
this story feels 'extremely' illegal because i stole essentially everything in it from somewhere else, i think. i stole structures, styles, and overall themes from the following works, i think, and probably more: honored guest by joy williams, you shall know our velocity! by dave eggers, chilly scenes of winter by ann beattie, and during my nervous breakdown i want to have a biographer present by brandon scott gorrell. i also stole the main events and ideas from a gmail chat with abhinav gupta a few weeks ago
i bought a candy bar off tao
it rained and hailed at work and i was the only one on and the roof started to sink in and leak and i called nico and laughed but was actually nervous
my street 'flash-flooded'
i want to post this quote by lorrie moore from anagrams:
"I missed him. Love, I realized, was something your spine memorized. There was nothing you could do about that.
From across the hall I could hear Gerard's phone ring, and I would listen and wait for him to pick it up and speak into it. The words were always muffled. Sometimes I could hear him laugh, as if he were quite ready to be happy again. A few times when he stayed out all night, his phone rang until three in the morning."
my car alarm went off when i unlocked my car
i'm going to push my head into a pillow now and watch online television until nico calls or i fall asleep
* *update* tao was wearing an 'i am carles' shirt' at the reading. i can only infer that this made him carles at that time. whether or not tao is 'carles' when he is not wearing the shirt is hard to say. i am not sure that tao is 'actually' carles all the time *update*







